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Ron Ford
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: qsort
       
Is qsort an intrinsic for C?
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pete
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
Ron Ford wrote:
Quote:

Is qsort an intrinsic for C?

In hosted implementations, yes.
In freestanding implementations, no.

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Eric Sosman
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
Ron Ford wrote:
Quote:

Is qsort an intrinsic for C?

qsort() is a function in C's Standard library, available
for use in all hosted implementations.

What's an "intrinsic?"

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Ron Ford
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:05:01 -0400, Eric Sosman posted:

Quote:
Ron Ford wrote:

Is qsort an intrinsic for C?

qsort() is a function in C's Standard library, available
for use in all hosted implementations.

What's an "intrinsic?"

An intrinsic is something that comes with the food in a given syntax.

One of my intrinsics is that I like Hillary. Your mileage may vary.

I don't see qsort in K&R as I leaf through or in the index. Did I
photograph the wrong target when I thought to have read of qsort in K&R?
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Richard Harter
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:05:01 -0400, Eric Sosman
<esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Ron Ford wrote:

Is qsort an intrinsic for C?

qsort() is a function in C's Standard library, available
for use in all hosted implementations.

What's an "intrinsic?"

The term is used in Fortran and elsewhere; it means that the
function in question is an intrinsic part of the language in
contrast to being part of a library. I expect that you already
know this and that your question is rhetorical, but I thought it
worthy of answer anyway.

So, no, qsort is not an intrinsic; if it were you wouldn't need
to include stdlib.h nor would you need to link in the standard
library. Nor could you write your own qsort and use it, either
by omitting to include stdlib.h, or by simply replacing qsort in
the standard library.



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Ron Ford
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:55:00 -0700 (PDT), vippstar@gmail.com posted:

Quote:
On Aug 27, 5:47 am, Ron Ford <r...@example.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:05:01 -0400, Eric Sosman posted:

Ron Ford wrote:

Is qsort an intrinsic for C?

qsort() is a function in C's Standard library, available
for use in all hosted implementations.

What's an "intrinsic?"

An intrinsic is something that comes with the food in a given syntax.

No it's not.

One of my intrinsics is that I like Hillary. Your mileage may vary.

Nonsense.

I don't see qsort in K&R as I leaf through or in the index. Did I
photograph the wrong target when I thought to have read of qsort in K&R?

Photograph the wrong target? nonsense.
Which K&R? See Appendix B in K&R2.

So we have vippstar, who broke his clc cherry to respond to me.

The appendices in K&R are numbered.

Your tjas are too.
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H. L. Mencken
 

 
Ian Collins
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
Ron Ford wrote:
Quote:

The appendices in K&R are numbered.

In hex maybe, but certainly not in decimal.


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Guest
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
On Aug 27, 5:47 am, Ron Ford <r...@example.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:05:01 -0400, Eric Sosman posted:

Ron Ford wrote:

Is qsort an intrinsic for C?

qsort() is a function in C's Standard library, available
for use in all hosted implementations.

What's an "intrinsic?"

An intrinsic is something that comes with the food in a given syntax.

No it's not.

Quote:
One of my intrinsics is that I like Hillary. Your mileage may vary.

Nonsense.

Quote:
I don't see qsort in K&R as I leaf through or in the index. Did I
photograph the wrong target when I thought to have read of qsort in K&R?

Photograph the wrong target? nonsense.
Which K&R? See Appendix B in K&R2.
 

 
Sensei
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
On 2008-08-27 06:10:21 +0200, Ron Ford <ron@example.invalid> said:

Quote:
I don't see qsort in K&R as I leaf through or in the index. Did I
photograph the wrong target when I thought to have read of qsort in K&R?

Photograph the wrong target? nonsense.
Which K&R? See Appendix B in K&R2.

So we have vippstar, who broke his clc cherry to respond to me.

The appendices in K&R are numbered.

Your tjas are too.

If by "number" you mean A, B, and C then yes. My own K&R second edition
shows nice "qsort function" and "qsort library function" lines in the
index at the end of the book.

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Java is the most distressing thing to happen to computing since MS-DOS.
(Alan Kay)
 

 
Ron Ford
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: qsort
       
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:56:11 +0200, Sensei posted:

Quote:
On 2008-08-27 06:10:21 +0200, Ron Ford <ron@example.invalid> said:

I don't see qsort in K&R as I leaf through or in the index. Did I
photograph the wrong target when I thought to have read of qsort in K&R?

Photograph the wrong target? nonsense.
Which K&R? See Appendix B in K&R2.

So we have vippstar, who broke his clc cherry to respond to me.

The appendices in K&R are numbered.

Your tjas are too.

If by "number" you mean A, B, and C then yes. My own K&R second edition
shows nice "qsort function" and "qsort library function" lines in the
index at the end of the book.

I see it now, beginning §4.10.

Dankenstein,
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When a new source of taxation is found it never means, in practice, that
the old source is abandoned. It merely means that the politicians have two
ways of milking the taxpayer where they had one before. 8
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