|  | Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | | |
| | | Harvey |  |
|  Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? |  |
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey |
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| | | Don Phillipson | |
| | Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
news:70244d60-5244-4276-a3c4-101e2c535552@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
|
Except for the user prompt, Win98 has no way to inform
you after the fact what you agreed to. You will probably
have to wait for an error message for one of your apps,
and then reinstal that app or device.
Hard drives are now so cheap that many of us copy all
C: or at least all C:\Windows to a second hard drive at
convenient intervals, e.g. once a month. Information at
LINK explains how to do incremental backups.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada) |
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| | | Guest | |
| | Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:59:24 -0700 (PDT), Harvey <harveyab@juno.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
Found the answer to my own question. Go to
v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
Harvey
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Why are you not running the SE version? That would be the best update
you could add. I still say Win98SE is the best OS ever produced by
Microsoft. But the first version of 98 was just a glorified Win95.
What file did you overwrite? Someone could send it to you, but it
might be hard to find anyone that is not using 98SE.
Dont you have a backup? That file should be there.....
I'm not sure where to find the updates to Win98 anymore, but be
careful. There are some that contain non-MS stuff, and at least one
of those can be destructive. Unfortunately I can not recall the name
of that file. It forced me to restore Win98 from my backup. |
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| | | Harvey | |
| | Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
|
Found the answer to my own question. Go to
v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
Harvey |
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| | | Harvey | |
| | Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
|
Found the update site but it didn't update anything.
How do I find and download/install the old file?
Harvey |
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| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
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You'd have to know what the file is, first. Anyway, you generally do NOT
want to overwrite newer files with older ones from the Windows CD when
there's a question like that. The files you have to worry about are the ones
where you said, "Yes" to that prompt. The ones you overwrote were Windows
Updates, mostly (though you may have gotten them elsewhere.)
I have a 2-CD set of Updates. The first CD is a copy of Microsoft's own
Security Updates CD from Feb 2004. The second CD contains all Windows Update
issued after that time that apply to Windows 98, 98SE and ME. Note that I
include ONLY Windows Updates that I downloaded directly from the WU Catalog.
The CD set would allow you to reinstall everything that can be reinstalled.
I ask $3, check or cash, to cover costs. Write to updates_at_grystmill.com
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
Found the update site but it didn't update anything.
How do I find and download/install the old file?
Harvey |
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| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
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Let's see... To upgrade to Windows 98 SE it would cost several dozen dollars
(unless Harvey went underground.) Then, because we all know that upgrading
in place (running Win98SE Setup over an existing installation, whether Win95
or Win98) tends to leave lousy results, with much worse issues involving the
very thing he is trying to cure today, Harvey would have to back up all his
personal data, make sure he had everything he needed on hand, and then
reformat his system, install Win98SE, update it, install all his apps (which
perhaps can't be found anymore?)
Harvey doesn't know what file needs replacing, now. In fact, if he wrote
what he wrote correctly, it's the files that he DID overwrite that are the
problem, not vice-versa.
You find Windows Updates at same general location they've always been.
LINK
As Harvey noted, that now redirects to
LINK
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
<letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: |
Why are you not running the SE version? That would be the best update
you could add. I still say Win98SE is the best OS ever produced by
Microsoft. But the first version of 98 was just a glorified Win95.
What file did you overwrite? Someone could send it to you, but it
might be hard to find anyone that is not using 98SE.
Dont you have a backup? That file should be there.....
I'm not sure where to find the updates to Win98 anymore, but be
careful. There are some that contain non-MS stuff, and at least one
of those can be destructive. Unfortunately I can not recall the name
of that file. It forced me to restore Win98 from my backup. |
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| | | Lee | |
| | Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
You could go here:
LINK
and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
"better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
In the future, don't do that anymore.
On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey |
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| | | Harvey | |
| | Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
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On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, Lee <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote:
| Quote: | You could go here:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/285189/EN-US/
and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
"better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
In the future, don't do that anymore.
On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
|
Thank you very much. Maybe I will get it to work now too. 
(I'll try to remember to report back here after I try it.)
Harvey |
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| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
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Harvey doesn't have one "bad" file, he's got several. He only DIDN'T
overwrite one, and overwrote all the rest.
You really think that the DUN 1.4 Update is going to restore all of the
files that got overwritten? That none of the overwritten files came from
other Updates? I'd have to go back through the entire list to be sure, but I
don't think that was the only update involving Networking.
Gotta admit, though, that DUN 1.4 replaces a lot of files.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:b71b0c13-d8a2-49b6-a0fe-6670f820e88c@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
You could go here:
LINK
and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
"better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
In the future, don't do that anymore.
On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey |
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