|  | Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | | |
| | | Gary S. Terhune |  |
|  Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? |  |
| |  | |
My mistake, I forgot how the prompt was worded. You say, "Yes," to keep the
newer file.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You'd have to know what the file is, first. Anyway, you generally do NOT
want to overwrite newer files with older ones from the Windows CD when
there's a question like that. The files you have to worry about are the
ones where you said, "Yes" to that prompt. The ones you overwrote were
Windows Updates, mostly (though you may have gotten them elsewhere.)
I have a 2-CD set of Updates. The first CD is a copy of Microsoft's own
Security Updates CD from Feb 2004. The second CD contains all Windows
Update issued after that time that apply to Windows 98, 98SE and ME. Note
that I include ONLY Windows Updates that I downloaded directly from the WU
Catalog.
The CD set would allow you to reinstall everything that can be
reinstalled. I ask $3, check or cash, to cover costs. Write to
updates_at_grystmill.com
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
news:3d5adf42-fdae-46c0-b996-7f509708d8ed@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
Found the update site but it didn't update anything.
How do I find and download/install the old file?
Harvey
|
|
| |
| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
My mistake, I forgot how the prompt read. "Yes," to keep the file, "No," to
overwrite.
Anyway, in all my tests, simply adding the Dial-up Server causes no prompts,
PROVIDED DUN and VON are already installed. Only if Dial-up Networking and
VPN are NOT installed/updated do I get prompts to overwrite. Just installing
those two (they come attached at the hip) causes the prompts. Installing
Dial-up Server automatically installs the other two, and that would cause
the prompts. Here's the files I get prompted to overwrite.
SNMPAPI.DLL "SNMP Utility Library" 5.00.2195.5513 (KB314147)
LINK
VIP.386 "Windows IP Driver" 4.10.2002 (KB259728)
LINK
TELNET.EXE "Telnet Program" 5.00.1755.2 (from KB 240163, aka TELNETUP.EXE,
but that patch is no longer posted separately at Microsoft Downloads for
Win98. Gotta get it from Windows Update or from the Security Updates CD of
Feb 2004 or from me or from some trusted location. I checked this one out
and it seems kosher. I did a full compare between this one and the one in
the Security Updates CD from Feb 2004.:
..http://www.filewatcher.com/m/TelnetUp.EXE.149984.0.0.html
I get prompted for each one twice, once for DUN and once for VPN. You might
want to check your versions of those files, and if they don't match,
consider reinstalling the Updates.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eUlds89yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Harvey doesn't have one "bad" file, he's got several. He only DIDN'T
overwrite one, and overwrote all the rest.
You really think that the DUN 1.4 Update is going to restore all of the
files that got overwritten? That none of the overwritten files came from
other Updates? I'd have to go back through the entire list to be sure, but
I don't think that was the only update involving Networking.
Gotta admit, though, that DUN 1.4 replaces a lot of files.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:b71b0c13-d8a2-49b6-a0fe-6670f820e88c@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
You could go here:
LINK
and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
"better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
In the future, don't do that anymore.
On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
|
|
| |
| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
Correction, that second paragraph should read, in part:
"Anyway, in all my tests, simply installing the Dial-up Server causes no
prompts, PROVIDED DUN and VPN (not VON) are already installed." Somehow the
sentence got totally mangled.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23B95ygGzIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | My mistake, I forgot how the prompt read. "Yes," to keep the file, "No,"
to overwrite.
Anyway, in all my tests, simthe Dial-up Server causes no prompts, PROVIDED
DUN and VON are already installedply adding . Only if Dial-up Networking
and VPN are NOT installed/updated do I get prompts to overwrite. Just
installing those two (they come attached at the hip) causes the prompts.
Installing Dial-up Server automatically installs the other two, and that
would cause the prompts. Here's the files I get prompted to overwrite.
SNMPAPI.DLL "SNMP Utility Library" 5.00.2195.5513 (KB314147)
LINK
VIP.386 "Windows IP Driver" 4.10.2002 (KB259728)
LINK
TELNET.EXE "Telnet Program" 5.00.1755.2 (from KB 240163, aka
TELNETUP.EXE, but that patch is no longer posted separately at Microsoft
Downloads for Win98. Gotta get it from Windows Update or from the Security
Updates CD of Feb 2004 or from me or from some trusted location. I checked
this one out and it seems kosher. I did a full compare between this one
and the one in the Security Updates CD from Feb 2004.:
.http://www.filewatcher.com/m/TelnetUp.EXE.149984.0.0.html
I get prompted for each one twice, once for DUN and once for VPN. You
might want to check your versions of those files, and if they don't match,
consider reinstalling the Updates.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eUlds89yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Harvey doesn't have one "bad" file, he's got several. He only DIDN'T
overwrite one, and overwrote all the rest.
You really think that the DUN 1.4 Update is going to restore all of the
files that got overwritten? That none of the overwritten files came from
other Updates? I'd have to go back through the entire list to be sure,
but I don't think that was the only update involving Networking.
Gotta admit, though, that DUN 1.4 replaces a lot of files.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:b71b0c13-d8a2-49b6-a0fe-6670f820e88c@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
You could go here:
LINK
and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
"better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
In the future, don't do that anymore.
On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
|
|
| |
| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
Did installing DUN 1.4 fix the problem, or can you still not connect to the
Win98 machine??
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Jun 11, 11:53 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
My mistake, I forgot how the prompt was worded. You say, "Yes," to keep
the
newer file.
That is exactly the "mistake" I made.
I have correctly answered that question many many times.
And, yes I was too quick on that first file this time.
Sorry for my impatience.
And thank you Lee and Gary for your help.
I did install Dial-Up Networking 1.4 as suggested by Lee.
Gary, the three files that you listed, I have the same version as you.
So for now I will assume that the mishap has been corrected by DUN1.4.
Harvey
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
messagenews:%230qwaloyIHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
You'd have to know what the file is, first. Anyway, you generally do
NOT
want to overwrite newer files with older ones from the Windows CD when
there's a question like that. The files you have to worry about are the
ones where you said, "Yes" to that prompt. The ones you overwrote were
Windows Updates, mostly (though you may have gotten them elsewhere.)
I have a 2-CD set of Updates. The first CD is a copy of Microsoft's own
Security Updates CD from Feb 2004. The second CD contains all Windows
Update issued after that time that apply to Windows 98, 98SE and ME.
Note
that I include ONLY Windows Updates that I downloaded directly from the
WU
Catalog.
The CD set would allow you to reinstall everything that can be
reinstalled. I ask $3, check or cash, to cover costs. Write to
updates_at_grystmill.com
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:3d5adf42-fdae-46c0-b996-7f509708d8ed@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
Found the update site but it didn't update anything.
How do I find and download/install the old file?
Harvey
|
|
| |
| | | Harvey | |
| | Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
On Jun 11, 11:53 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
| Quote: | My mistake, I forgot how the prompt was worded. You say, "Yes," to keep the
newer file.
|
That is exactly the "mistake" I made.
I have correctly answered that question many many times.
And, yes I was too quick on that first file this time.
Sorry for my impatience.
And thank you Lee and Gary for your help.
I did install Dial-Up Networking 1.4 as suggested by Lee.
Gary, the three files that you listed, I have the same version as you.
So for now I will assume that the mishap has been corrected by DUN1.4.
Harvey
| Quote: | --
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in messagenews:%230qwaloyIHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
You'd have to know what the file is, first. Anyway, you generally do NOT
want to overwrite newer files with older ones from the Windows CD when
there's a question like that. The files you have to worry about are the
ones where you said, "Yes" to that prompt. The ones you overwrote were
Windows Updates, mostly (though you may have gotten them elsewhere.)
I have a 2-CD set of Updates. The first CD is a copy of Microsoft's own
Security Updates CD from Feb 2004. The second CD contains all Windows
Update issued after that time that apply to Windows 98, 98SE and ME. Note
that I include ONLY Windows Updates that I downloaded directly from the WU
Catalog.
The CD set would allow you to reinstall everything that can be
reinstalled. I ask $3, check or cash, to cover costs. Write to
updates_at_grystmill.com
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:3d5adf42-fdae-46c0-b996-7f509708d8ed@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
Found the update site but it didn't update anything.
How do I find and download/install the old file?
Harvey |
|
| |
| | | Harvey | |
| | Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
On Jun 11, 3:30 am, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, Lee <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote:
You could go here:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/285189/EN-US/
and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
"better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
In the future, don't do that anymore.
On Jun 9, 2:49 pm,Harvey<harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
Thank you very much. Maybe I will get it to work now too. 
(I'll try to remember to report back here after I try it.)
Harvey
|
Lee,
I seem to be okay from that mishap.
Thanks,
Harvey |
| |
| | | PCR | |
| | Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| My mistake, I forgot how the prompt read. "Yes," to keep the file,
| "No," to overwrite.
|
| Anyway, in all my tests, simply adding the Dial-up Server causes no
| prompts, PROVIDED DUN and VON are already installed. Only if Dial-up
| Networking and VPN are NOT installed/updated do I get prompts to
| overwrite. Just installing those two (they come attached at the hip)
| causes the prompts. Installing Dial-up Server automatically installs
| the other two, and that would cause the prompts. Here's the files I
| get prompted to overwrite.
|
| SNMPAPI.DLL "SNMP Utility Library" 5.00.2195.5513 (KB314147)
|
LINK
|
| VIP.386 "Windows IP Driver" 4.10.2002 (KB259728)
|
LINK
Because my Win98SE VIP.386 is version 4.10.2226, I looked looked inside
259728USA8.EXE using WinZip. There are TWO of them in there...
VIP.98g v.4.10.2002
VIP.98s v.4.10.2226
Those would get renamed to VIP.386. But the first must be for 98FE. The
other files you mention are the same as what I've got.
| TELNET.EXE "Telnet Program" 5.00.1755.2 (from KB 240163, aka
| TELNETUP.EXE, but that patch is no longer posted separately at
| Microsoft Downloads for Win98. Gotta get it from Windows Update or
| from the Security Updates CD of Feb 2004 or from me or from some
| trusted location. I checked this one out and it seems kosher. I did a
| full compare between this one and the one in the Security Updates CD
| from Feb 2004.:
| .http://www.filewatcher.com/m/TelnetUp.EXE.149984.0.0.html
|
| I get prompted for each one twice, once for DUN and once for VPN. You
| might want to check your versions of those files, and if they don't
| match, consider reinstalling the Updates.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| LINK
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| news:eUlds89yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> Harvey doesn't have one "bad" file, he's got several. He only DIDN'T
|> overwrite one, and overwrote all the rest.
|>
|> You really think that the DUN 1.4 Update is going to restore all of
|> the files that got overwritten? That none of the overwritten files
|> came from other Updates? I'd have to go back through the entire list
|> to be sure, but I don't think that was the only update involving
|> Networking.
|>
|> Gotta admit, though, that DUN 1.4 replaces a lot of files.
|>
|> --
|> Gary S. Terhune
|> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> LINK
|>
|> "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
|>
news:b71b0c13-d8a2-49b6-a0fe-6670f820e88c@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
|> You could go here:
|> LINK
|>
|> and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
|> Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
|> "better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
|>
|> In the future, don't do that anymore.
|>
|> On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
|>> Running Win98 (NOT SE).
|>> While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
|>> overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of
|>> Yes.) Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
|>> How can I find out and update that file?
|>> I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
|>> after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way
|>> to bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
|>>
|>> Harvey
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net |
| |
| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
I will remind you and anyone else that the OP started out by being rather
emphatic that it's a Win98 Gold machine that is being discussed.
Lots of MS patches have that same system. The file, once installed, needs to
be named the same whether for 98 Gold or for SE (or even ME), but that's a
PITA when packing up a patch, since it would require additional folders to
keep them separate. Changing the extension during installation is easier.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eZrZBXSzIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| My mistake, I forgot how the prompt read. "Yes," to keep the file,
| "No," to overwrite.
|
| Anyway, in all my tests, simply adding the Dial-up Server causes no
| prompts, PROVIDED DUN and VON are already installed. Only if Dial-up
| Networking and VPN are NOT installed/updated do I get prompts to
| overwrite. Just installing those two (they come attached at the hip)
| causes the prompts. Installing Dial-up Server automatically installs
| the other two, and that would cause the prompts. Here's the files I
| get prompted to overwrite.
|
| SNMPAPI.DLL "SNMP Utility Library" 5.00.2195.5513 (KB314147)
|
LINK
|
| VIP.386 "Windows IP Driver" 4.10.2002 (KB259728)
|
LINK
Because my Win98SE VIP.386 is version 4.10.2226, I looked looked inside
259728USA8.EXE using WinZip. There are TWO of them in there...
VIP.98g v.4.10.2002
VIP.98s v.4.10.2226
Those would get renamed to VIP.386. But the first must be for 98FE. The
other files you mention are the same as what I've got.
| TELNET.EXE "Telnet Program" 5.00.1755.2 (from KB 240163, aka
| TELNETUP.EXE, but that patch is no longer posted separately at
| Microsoft Downloads for Win98. Gotta get it from Windows Update or
| from the Security Updates CD of Feb 2004 or from me or from some
| trusted location. I checked this one out and it seems kosher. I did a
| full compare between this one and the one in the Security Updates CD
| from Feb 2004.:
| .http://www.filewatcher.com/m/TelnetUp.EXE.149984.0.0.html
|
| I get prompted for each one twice, once for DUN and once for VPN. You
| might want to check your versions of those files, and if they don't
| match, consider reinstalling the Updates.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| LINK
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| news:eUlds89yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> Harvey doesn't have one "bad" file, he's got several. He only DIDN'T
|> overwrite one, and overwrote all the rest.
|
|> You really think that the DUN 1.4 Update is going to restore all of
|> the files that got overwritten? That none of the overwritten files
|> came from other Updates? I'd have to go back through the entire list
|> to be sure, but I don't think that was the only update involving
|> Networking.
|
|> Gotta admit, though, that DUN 1.4 replaces a lot of files.
|
|> --
|> Gary S. Terhune
|> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> LINK
|
|> "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
|
news:b71b0c13-d8a2-49b6-a0fe-6670f820e88c@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
|> You could go here:
|> LINK
|
|> and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking 1.4
|> Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with a
|> "better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma sideways.
|
|> In the future, don't do that anymore.
|
|> On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
|>> Running Win98 (NOT SE).
|>> While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
|>> overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of
|>> Yes.) Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
|>> How can I find out and update that file?
|>> I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
|>> after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way
|>> to bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
|
|>> Harvey
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
|
|
| |
| | | PCR | |
| | Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| I will remind you and anyone else that the OP started out by being
| rather emphatic that it's a Win98 Gold machine that is being
| discussed.
|
| Lots of MS patches have that same system. The file, once installed,
| needs to be named the same whether for 98 Gold or for SE (or even
| ME), but that's a PITA when packing up a patch, since it would
| require additional folders to keep them separate. Changing the
| extension during installation is easier.
OK, thanks. That's right, I didn't notice OP said he was Gold.
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| LINK
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eZrZBXSzIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | My mistake, I forgot how the prompt read. "Yes," to keep the file,
|> | "No," to overwrite.
|> |
|> | Anyway, in all my tests, simply adding the Dial-up Server causes no
|> | prompts, PROVIDED DUN and VON are already installed. Only if
|> | Dial-up Networking and VPN are NOT installed/updated do I get
|> | prompts to overwrite. Just installing those two (they come
|> | attached at the hip) causes the prompts. Installing Dial-up Server
|> | automatically installs the other two, and that would cause the
|> | prompts. Here's the files I get prompted to overwrite.
|> |
|> | SNMPAPI.DLL "SNMP Utility Library" 5.00.2195.5513 (KB314147)
|> |
|>
LINK
|> |
|> | VIP.386 "Windows IP Driver" 4.10.2002 (KB259728)
|> |
|>
LINK
|>
|> Because my Win98SE VIP.386 is version 4.10.2226, I looked looked
|> inside 259728USA8.EXE using WinZip. There are TWO of them in there...
|>
|> VIP.98g v.4.10.2002
|> VIP.98s v.4.10.2226
|>
|> Those would get renamed to VIP.386. But the first must be for 98FE.
|> The other files you mention are the same as what I've got.
|>
|> | TELNET.EXE "Telnet Program" 5.00.1755.2 (from KB 240163, aka
|> | TELNETUP.EXE, but that patch is no longer posted separately at
|> | Microsoft Downloads for Win98. Gotta get it from Windows Update or
|> | from the Security Updates CD of Feb 2004 or from me or from some
|> | trusted location. I checked this one out and it seems kosher. I
|> | did a full compare between this one and the one in the Security
|> | Updates CD from Feb 2004.:
|> | .http://www.filewatcher.com/m/TelnetUp.EXE.149984.0.0.html
|> |
|> | I get prompted for each one twice, once for DUN and once for VPN.
|> | You might want to check your versions of those files, and if they
|> | don't match, consider reinstalling the Updates.
|> |
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | LINK
|> |
|> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|> | news:eUlds89yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> |> Harvey doesn't have one "bad" file, he's got several. He only
|> |> DIDN'T overwrite one, and overwrote all the rest.
|> |>
|> |> You really think that the DUN 1.4 Update is going to restore all
|> |> of the files that got overwritten? That none of the overwritten
|> |> files came from other Updates? I'd have to go back through the
|> |> entire list to be sure, but I don't think that was the only
|> |> update involving Networking.
|> |>
|> |> Gotta admit, though, that DUN 1.4 replaces a lot of files.
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Gary S. Terhune
|> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> LINK
|> |>
|> |> "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
|> |>
|>
news:b71b0c13-d8a2-49b6-a0fe-6670f820e88c@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
|> |> You could go here:
|> |> LINK
|> |>
|> |> and download and install Microsoft Windows 98 Dial-Up Networking
|> |> 1.4 Upgrade which would very likely overwrite the "bad" file with
|> |> a "better than ever" version and get you out of the dilemma
|> |> sideways.
|> |>
|> |> In the future, don't do that anymore.
|> |>
|> |> On Jun 9, 2:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
|> |>> Running Win98 (NOT SE).
|> |>> While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I
|> |>> accidentally overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said
|> |>> No instead of Yes.) Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
|> |>> How can I find out and update that file?
|> |>> I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even
|> |>> long after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now
|> |>> no way to bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they
|> |>> stopped)?
|> |>>
|> |>> Harvey
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net
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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net |
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| | | Harvey | |
| | Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Windows Update for 98 really all gone? | |
| | | |
On Jun 12, 4:56 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
| Quote: | Did installing DUN 1.4 fix the problem, or can you still not connect to the
Win98 machine??
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
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Still can't.
I have brought a second Win98FE computer into the picture.
Either W98FE machine can dial to the other or to the WXP.
But the WXP cannot dial to either of the W98FE computers.
At the moment I have yet another Win98_SE_ computer sprawled on the
floor.
I am trying to dial in to the main Win98FE computer,
but it has been stuck at "Answering..." for 28 minutes already (as I
type this).
It just keeps sending and receiving bytes (over 160kB each way so
far).
So that's yet a new problem/symptom.
Next I will try FE -> SE.
BTW, does anyone know if it has ever been done?
That is WinXPHome -> Win98FE without using VPN or any 3rd party SW?
I have been searching Google and Google Groups and have found a few
who have tried,
but have not found anyone claiming success.
(I don't give up easily.)
Harvey
| Quote: |
"Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:ff42e013-3563-41e4-8c95-b2ea9041087a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 11, 11:53 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
My mistake, I forgot how the prompt was worded. You say, "Yes," to keep
the
newer file.
That is exactly the "mistake" I made.
I have correctly answered that question many many times.
And, yes I was too quick on that first file this time.
Sorry for my impatience.
And thank you Lee and Gary for your help.
I did install Dial-Up Networking 1.4 as suggested by Lee.
Gary, the three files that you listed, I have the same version as you.
So for now I will assume that the mishap has been corrected by DUN1.4.
Harvey
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
messagenews:%230qwaloyIHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
You'd have to know what the file is, first. Anyway, you generally do
NOT
want to overwrite newer files with older ones from the Windows CD when
there's a question like that. The files you have to worry about are the
ones where you said, "Yes" to that prompt. The ones you overwrote were
Windows Updates, mostly (though you may have gotten them elsewhere.)
I have a 2-CD set of Updates. The first CD is a copy of Microsoft's own
Security Updates CD from Feb 2004. The second CD contains all Windows
Update issued after that time that apply to Windows 98, 98SE and ME.
Note
that I include ONLY Windows Updates that I downloaded directly from the
WU
Catalog.
The CD set would allow you to reinstall everything that can be
reinstalled. I ask $3, check or cash, to cover costs. Write to
updates_at_grystmill.com
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:3d5adf42-fdae-46c0-b996-7f509708d8ed@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 9, 1:49 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
Running Win98 (NOT SE).
While reinstalling the Dial Up Networking and Server, I accidentally
overwrote a newer file with an older one. (I said No instead of Yes.)
Didn't catch the filename so it's gone.
How can I find out and update that file?
I tried "Windows Update" which worked last time I tried, even long
after MS stopped supporting or updating Win98. Is there now no way to
bring Win98 up to date (as of 2006 or whenever they stopped)?
Harvey
Found the update site but it didn't update anything.
How do I find and download/install the old file?
Harvey |
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