|  | Slow behavior | | |
| | | BobJam |  |
|  Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: Slow behavior |  |
| |  | |
A little over a week ago, my XP (HE) began to visibly slow down. For
example, on startup the desktop icons would have the generic look and then
slowly refresh one by one. And another example, when opening a program, it
firsts displays partially and then the whole window comes up.
So, I started to troubleshoot. First, I loaded Task Manager in an effort to
see if any processes or applications were taking an unusual amount of
resources. Nothing that gave me a hint there.
Next I disabled indexing for searches, 'cause I thought maybe that was
slowing things down (though I had indexing on prior to this and it never
slowed things down like I'm seeing in my examples above). No joy there.
Then I though that maybe my prefetch files were gone and that was causing
this, but that wasn't the case.
I've scanned for spyware and viruses, but no joy there either (for once I
was hoping some malware would show up).
My swap file is fixed and defragmented, so that doesn't seem to be it
either.
MS came out with a bunch of updates on the 14th, so I thought maybe it was
one of them, and have been removing one by one, but still no joy there.
I've disabled all polling that some programs do for updates (like Adobe
Reader and Java), thinking that perhaps that was interrupting the display .
.. . but no joy there either.
I did update to Java Version 6 Update 10, which is listed as a Release
Candidate but is still really a beta, right around the time those MS Updates
came out and when my slow problem first started, so my next step will be to
either go back to Update 7, or just uninstall Java completely (I really
don't use it, and only have need of it when I do the Secunia online scan for
security update info).
Since beta's are essentially unfinished software, I'm thinking that maybe
Update 10 could be doing it.
I'm reluctant to bash MS Updates, but they have been known to screw things
up. However, on all the searches I've done I don't see anything about those
updates slowing things down, so I'm thinking that the MS Updates are
probably not the cause.
So . . . thoughts or ideas?? |
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| | | PA Bear [MS MVP] | |
| | Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
| | | |
Help! My Computer is slow!:
LINK
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin LINK
DTS-L LINK
BobJam wrote:
| Quote: | A little over a week ago, my XP (HE) began to visibly slow down. For
example, on startup the desktop icons would have the generic look and then
slowly refresh one by one. And another example, when opening a program,
it
firsts displays partially and then the whole window comes up.
So, I started to troubleshoot. First, I loaded Task Manager in an effort
to
see if any processes or applications were taking an unusual amount of
resources. Nothing that gave me a hint there.
Next I disabled indexing for searches, 'cause I thought maybe that was
slowing things down (though I had indexing on prior to this and it never
slowed things down like I'm seeing in my examples above). No joy there.
Then I though that maybe my prefetch files were gone and that was causing
this, but that wasn't the case.
I've scanned for spyware and viruses, but no joy there either (for once I
was hoping some malware would show up).
My swap file is fixed and defragmented, so that doesn't seem to be it
either.
MS came out with a bunch of updates on the 14th, so I thought maybe it was
one of them, and have been removing one by one, but still no joy there.
I've disabled all polling that some programs do for updates (like Adobe
Reader and Java), thinking that perhaps that was interrupting the display
.
. . but no joy there either.
I did update to Java Version 6 Update 10, which is listed as a Release
Candidate but is still really a beta, right around the time those MS
Updates
came out and when my slow problem first started, so my next step will be
to
either go back to Update 7, or just uninstall Java completely (I really
don't use it, and only have need of it when I do the Secunia online scan
for
security update info).
Since beta's are essentially unfinished software, I'm thinking that maybe
Update 10 could be doing it.
I'm reluctant to bash MS Updates, but they have been known to screw things
up. However, on all the searches I've done I don't see anything about
those
updates slowing things down, so I'm thinking that the MS Updates are
probably not the cause.
So . . . thoughts or ideas?? |
|
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| | | db.·.. | |
| | Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
| | | |
try opening the task manager
and simply kill all the processes
that it will allow you to.
when you kill explorer.exe
simply relaunch it as a new
task.
by eliminating processes from
memory you can then see if
the cpu is able to allocate more
power where you need it.
--
db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
"BobJam" <rbjamieATgmailDOTcom> wrote in message news:eUpPhwlBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | A little over a week ago, my XP (HE) began to visibly slow down. For
example, on startup the desktop icons would have the generic look and then
slowly refresh one by one. And another example, when opening a program, it
firsts displays partially and then the whole window comes up.
So, I started to troubleshoot. First, I loaded Task Manager in an effort to
see if any processes or applications were taking an unusual amount of
resources. Nothing that gave me a hint there.
Next I disabled indexing for searches, 'cause I thought maybe that was
slowing things down (though I had indexing on prior to this and it never
slowed things down like I'm seeing in my examples above). No joy there.
Then I though that maybe my prefetch files were gone and that was causing
this, but that wasn't the case.
I've scanned for spyware and viruses, but no joy there either (for once I
was hoping some malware would show up).
My swap file is fixed and defragmented, so that doesn't seem to be it
either.
MS came out with a bunch of updates on the 14th, so I thought maybe it was
one of them, and have been removing one by one, but still no joy there.
I've disabled all polling that some programs do for updates (like Adobe
Reader and Java), thinking that perhaps that was interrupting the display .
. . but no joy there either.
I did update to Java Version 6 Update 10, which is listed as a Release
Candidate but is still really a beta, right around the time those MS Updates
came out and when my slow problem first started, so my next step will be to
either go back to Update 7, or just uninstall Java completely (I really
don't use it, and only have need of it when I do the Secunia online scan for
security update info).
Since beta's are essentially unfinished software, I'm thinking that maybe
Update 10 could be doing it.
I'm reluctant to bash MS Updates, but they have been known to screw things
up. However, on all the searches I've done I don't see anything about those
updates slowing things down, so I'm thinking that the MS Updates are
probably not the cause.
So . . . thoughts or ideas??
|
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| | | BobJam | |
| | Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
I think I may have found the culprit. It's the latest lengthy hosts file
from the mvps.org site ( LINK ).
I disabled it and the slowness seems to have gone away. But I'm still
experimenting with it, so a conclusion just yet is premature.
If indeed that turns out to be it, then I'm going to have to either adjust
to advertising or figure out a workaround. In the past I have had the DNS
Client Service set to Manual as described on that web page to limit the
hosts file from slowing things down, but maybe Disable is the setting now. |
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| | | PA Bear [MS MVP] | |
| | Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
See LINK
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin LINK
DTS-L LINK
BobJam wrote:
| Quote: | I think I may have found the culprit. It's the latest lengthy hosts file
from the mvps.org site ( LINK ).
I disabled it and the slowness seems to have gone away. But I'm still
experimenting with it, so a conclusion just yet is premature.
If indeed that turns out to be it, then I'm going to have to either adjust
to advertising or figure out a workaround. In the past I have had the DNS
Client Service set to Manual as described on that web page to limit the
hosts file from slowing things down, but maybe Disable is the setting now. |
|
| |
| | | Daave | |
| | Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
BobJam wrote:
| Quote: | I think I may have found the culprit. It's the latest lengthy hosts
file from the mvps.org site (
LINK ).
I disabled it and the slowness seems to have gone away. But I'm still
experimenting with it, so a conclusion just yet is premature.
If indeed that turns out to be it, then I'm going to have to either
adjust to advertising or figure out a workaround. In the past I have
had the DNS Client Service set to Manual as described on that web
page to limit the hosts file from slowing things down, but maybe
Disable is the setting now.
|
Can't hurt to disable DNS Client Service. |
| |
| | | Daave | |
| | Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
| | | |
BobJam wrote:
| Quote: | A little over a week ago, my XP (HE) began to visibly slow down. For
example, on startup the desktop icons would have the generic look and
then slowly refresh one by one. And another example, when opening a
program, it firsts displays partially and then the whole window comes
up.
So, I started to troubleshoot. First, I loaded Task Manager in an
effort to see if any processes or applications were taking an unusual
amount of resources. Nothing that gave me a hint there.
Next I disabled indexing for searches, 'cause I thought maybe that was
slowing things down (though I had indexing on prior to this and it
never slowed things down like I'm seeing in my examples above). No
joy there.
Then I though that maybe my prefetch files were gone and that was
causing this, but that wasn't the case.
I've scanned for spyware and viruses, but no joy there either (for
once I was hoping some malware would show up).
My swap file is fixed and defragmented, so that doesn't seem to be it
either.
MS came out with a bunch of updates on the 14th, so I thought maybe
it was one of them, and have been removing one by one, but still no
joy there.
I've disabled all polling that some programs do for updates (like
Adobe Reader and Java), thinking that perhaps that was interrupting
the display . . . but no joy there either.
I did update to Java Version 6 Update 10, which is listed as a Release
Candidate but is still really a beta, right around the time those MS
Updates came out and when my slow problem first started, so my next
step will be to either go back to Update 7, or just uninstall Java
completely (I really don't use it, and only have need of it when I do
the Secunia online scan for security update info).
Since beta's are essentially unfinished software, I'm thinking that
maybe Update 10 could be doing it.
I'm reluctant to bash MS Updates, but they have been known to screw
things up. However, on all the searches I've done I don't see
anything about those updates slowing things down, so I'm thinking
that the MS Updates are probably not the cause.
So . . . thoughts or ideas??
|
So far, you've done all the right things.
Go ahead with uninstalling Java. Then for good measure, use System
Restore to go to a date before the slowness began.
Another idea is to check that your hard drive's access mode didn't
change from DMA to PIO:
LINK
and
LINK |
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| | | Kelly | |
| | Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
| | | |
Suggestions:
To proceed: Go to: Windows Explorer/Tools/Folder Options/View/Show Hidden
File and Uncheck Hide Protected Operating System Files.
Delete Icon Cache. It is located here:
IconCache.db
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Application Data
To clear and reset icon cache:
Right click the Desktop/Properties/Appearance/Advanced. Use the item
drop box and choose Icon. Change the pixel number by one. Ok your way
out.
Increase Icon Cache (Line 121)
LINK
Correct/Repair the Icon View (Line 4)
LINK
Prevent Auto Folder/Icon Refresh (Line 157)
LINK
Tip:
Add Icon Cache Size to Folder Options/View (Line 166)
LINK
Good luck and keep us posted.
--
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)
Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
LINK!.htm
SupportSpace
LINK
"BobJam" <rbjamieATgmailDOTcom> wrote in message
news:eUpPhwlBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | A little over a week ago, my XP (HE) began to visibly slow down. For
example, on startup the desktop icons would have the generic look and then
slowly refresh one by one. And another example, when opening a program,
it
firsts displays partially and then the whole window comes up.
So, I started to troubleshoot. First, I loaded Task Manager in an effort
to
see if any processes or applications were taking an unusual amount of
resources. Nothing that gave me a hint there.
Next I disabled indexing for searches, 'cause I thought maybe that was
slowing things down (though I had indexing on prior to this and it never
slowed things down like I'm seeing in my examples above). No joy there.
Then I though that maybe my prefetch files were gone and that was causing
this, but that wasn't the case.
I've scanned for spyware and viruses, but no joy there either (for once I
was hoping some malware would show up).
My swap file is fixed and defragmented, so that doesn't seem to be it
either.
MS came out with a bunch of updates on the 14th, so I thought maybe it was
one of them, and have been removing one by one, but still no joy there.
I've disabled all polling that some programs do for updates (like Adobe
Reader and Java), thinking that perhaps that was interrupting the display
.
. . but no joy there either.
I did update to Java Version 6 Update 10, which is listed as a Release
Candidate but is still really a beta, right around the time those MS
Updates
came out and when my slow problem first started, so my next step will be
to
either go back to Update 7, or just uninstall Java completely (I really
don't use it, and only have need of it when I do the Secunia online scan
for
security update info).
Since beta's are essentially unfinished software, I'm thinking that maybe
Update 10 could be doing it.
I'm reluctant to bash MS Updates, but they have been known to screw things
up. However, on all the searches I've done I don't see anything about
those
updates slowing things down, so I'm thinking that the MS Updates are
probably not the cause.
So . . . thoughts or ideas??
|
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| | | BobJam | |
| | Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
| | | |
Hey Kelly,
Thanks . . . Done!!!
And as far as my slowdown problem besides the slow redrawing of desktop
icons, see my follow-up post in this thread.
I think your tips here helped a bit anyway.
"Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message
news:%23mNOER6BJHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Suggestions:
To proceed: Go to: Windows Explorer/Tools/Folder Options/View/Show
Hidden File and Uncheck Hide Protected Operating System Files.
Delete Icon Cache. It is located here:
IconCache.db
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Application Data
To clear and reset icon cache:
Right click the Desktop/Properties/Appearance/Advanced. Use the item
drop box and choose Icon. Change the pixel number by one. Ok your way
out.
Increase Icon Cache (Line 121)
LINK
Correct/Repair the Icon View (Line 4)
LINK
Prevent Auto Folder/Icon Refresh (Line 157)
LINK
Tip:
Add Icon Cache Size to Folder Options/View (Line 166)
LINK
Good luck and keep us posted.
--
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)
Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
LINK!.htm
SupportSpace
LINK
"BobJam" <rbjamieATgmailDOTcom> wrote in message
news:eUpPhwlBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
A little over a week ago, my XP (HE) began to visibly slow down. For
example, on startup the desktop icons would have the generic look and
then
slowly refresh one by one. And another example, when opening a program,
it
firsts displays partially and then the whole window comes up.
So, I started to troubleshoot. First, I loaded Task Manager in an effort
to
see if any processes or applications were taking an unusual amount of
resources. Nothing that gave me a hint there.
Next I disabled indexing for searches, 'cause I thought maybe that was
slowing things down (though I had indexing on prior to this and it never
slowed things down like I'm seeing in my examples above). No joy there.
Then I though that maybe my prefetch files were gone and that was causing
this, but that wasn't the case.
I've scanned for spyware and viruses, but no joy there either (for once I
was hoping some malware would show up).
My swap file is fixed and defragmented, so that doesn't seem to be it
either.
MS came out with a bunch of updates on the 14th, so I thought maybe it
was
one of them, and have been removing one by one, but still no joy there.
I've disabled all polling that some programs do for updates (like Adobe
Reader and Java), thinking that perhaps that was interrupting the display
.
. . but no joy there either.
I did update to Java Version 6 Update 10, which is listed as a Release
Candidate but is still really a beta, right around the time those MS
Updates
came out and when my slow problem first started, so my next step will be
to
either go back to Update 7, or just uninstall Java completely (I really
don't use it, and only have need of it when I do the Secunia online scan
for
security update info).
Since beta's are essentially unfinished software, I'm thinking that maybe
Update 10 could be doing it.
I'm reluctant to bash MS Updates, but they have been known to screw
things
up. However, on all the searches I've done I don't see anything about
those
updates slowing things down, so I'm thinking that the MS Updates are
probably not the cause.
So . . . thoughts or ideas??
|
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| | | Kelly | |
| | Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Slow behavior | |
| | | |
Great news, glad to hear all is well.  )
--
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)
Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
LINK!.htm
SupportSpace
LINK
"BobJam" <rbjamieATgmailDOTcom> wrote in message
news:uxgwCE7BJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hey Kelly,
Thanks . . . Done!!!
And as far as my slowdown problem besides the slow redrawing of desktop
icons, see my follow-up post in this thread.
I think your tips here helped a bit anyway.
"Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message
news:%23mNOER6BJHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Suggestions:
To proceed: Go to: Windows Explorer/Tools/Folder Options/View/Show
Hidden File and Uncheck Hide Protected Operating System Files.
Delete Icon Cache. It is located here:
IconCache.db
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Application Data
To clear and reset icon cache:
Right click the Desktop/Properties/Appearance/Advanced. Use the item
drop box and choose Icon. Change the pixel number by one. Ok your way
out.
Increase Icon Cache (Line 121)
LINK
Correct/Repair the Icon View (Line 4)
LINK
Prevent Auto Folder/Icon Refresh (Line 157)
LINK
Tip:
Add Icon Cache Size to Folder Options/View (Line 166)
LINK
Good luck and keep us posted.
--
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)
Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
LINK!.htm
SupportSpace
LINK
"BobJam" <rbjamieATgmailDOTcom> wrote in message
news:eUpPhwlBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
A little over a week ago, my XP (HE) began to visibly slow down. For
example, on startup the desktop icons would have the generic look and
then
slowly refresh one by one. And another example, when opening a program,
it
firsts displays partially and then the whole window comes up.
So, I started to troubleshoot. First, I loaded Task Manager in an
effort to
see if any processes or applications were taking an unusual amount of
resources. Nothing that gave me a hint there.
Next I disabled indexing for searches, 'cause I thought maybe that was
slowing things down (though I had indexing on prior to this and it never
slowed things down like I'm seeing in my examples above). No joy there.
Then I though that maybe my prefetch files were gone and that was
causing
this, but that wasn't the case.
I've scanned for spyware and viruses, but no joy there either (for once
I
was hoping some malware would show up).
My swap file is fixed and defragmented, so that doesn't seem to be it
either.
MS came out with a bunch of updates on the 14th, so I thought maybe it
was
one of them, and have been removing one by one, but still no joy there.
I've disabled all polling that some programs do for updates (like Adobe
Reader and Java), thinking that perhaps that was interrupting the
display .
. . but no joy there either.
I did update to Java Version 6 Update 10, which is listed as a Release
Candidate but is still really a beta, right around the time those MS
Updates
came out and when my slow problem first started, so my next step will be
to
either go back to Update 7, or just uninstall Java completely (I really
don't use it, and only have need of it when I do the Secunia online scan
for
security update info).
Since beta's are essentially unfinished software, I'm thinking that
maybe
Update 10 could be doing it.
I'm reluctant to bash MS Updates, but they have been known to screw
things
up. However, on all the searches I've done I don't see anything about
those
updates slowing things down, so I'm thinking that the MS Updates are
probably not the cause.
So . . . thoughts or ideas??
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