|  | Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | | |
| | | Peter in New Zealand |  |
|  Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:21 am Post subject: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? |  |
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My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98 I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of? I will be imaging
the drive before starting so I can return it to its 98 state pretty
easily if I want to.
On the USB issue I have decided to forget about it as I will be tossing
in a network PC card when it arrives and then I can move stuff between
it and my other machine without difficulty.
--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler. |
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| | | Bill in Co. | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
Peter in New Zealand wrote:
| Quote: | My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98, I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of?
|
NT4 is less stable than Win98?
| Quote: | I will be imaging
the drive before starting so I can return it to its 98 state pretty
easily if I want to.
On the USB issue I have decided to forget about it as I will be tossing
in a network PC card when it arrives and then I can move stuff between
it and my other machine without difficulty.
--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler. |
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| | | MEB | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
Oh boy, aaahhm, your likely not going to like NT4 on that limited memory,
disk space, and processor computer. Also, NT4 wasn't exactly the friendliest
environment for most home users. If you're thinking that it would be much
better with your XP [and VISTA if you have it] computers, personally I don't
think you would like it very much. Let me modify that a bit by this: if you
were interested in how *old NT* is compared to 2000, XP and above, then it
would certainly be useful as a learning tool.
Note though, that NTFS, file sharing, and a lot other are different, and
you would need to get some files to connect it properly to your XP machines.
You may also have difficulties finding drivers, and applications.
Not a choice we can make for you of course.
--
MEB
LINK
--
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"Peter in New Zealand" <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1213679624.971855@ftpsrv1...
| My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
| this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
| on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
| experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
| Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
| I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
| quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
| I think from anyone who has used it.
|
| I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
| and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98 I
| know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of? I will be imaging
| the drive before starting so I can return it to its 98 state pretty
| easily if I want to.
|
| On the USB issue I have decided to forget about it as I will be tossing
| in a network PC card when it arrives and then I can move stuff between
| it and my other machine without difficulty.
| --
| Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
| Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
| compulsive computer fiddler. |
| |
| | | Gary S. Terhune | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
He said it's MORE stable. Read the sentence again.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uioY2fE0IHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Peter in New Zealand wrote:
My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98, I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of?
NT4 is less stable than Win98?
I will be imaging
the drive before starting so I can return it to its 98 state pretty
easily if I want to.
On the USB issue I have decided to forget about it as I will be tossing
in a network PC card when it arrives and then I can move stuff between
it and my other machine without difficulty.
--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler.
|
|
| |
| | | Peter in New Zealand | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uioY2fE0IHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Peter in New Zealand wrote:
My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98, I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of?
NT4 is less stable than Win98?
Ach! Silly me - and I really *did* read through my post before hitting the |
send button. Of course what I *meant* was, "I would gain stability from
switching from 98 to NT4. . . ."
My question about possible down sides still stands though (grin) Thanks for
pointing out my typo.
--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler. |
| |
| | | Peter in New Zealand | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uIZ8uhE0IHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Quote: |
Oh boy, aaahhm, your likely not going to like NT4 on that limited memory,
disk space, and processor computer. Also, NT4 wasn't exactly the
friendliest
environment for most home users. If you're thinking that it would be much
better with your XP [and VISTA if you have it] computers, personally I
don't
think you would like it very much. Let me modify that a bit by this: if
you
were interested in how *old NT* is compared to 2000, XP and above, then it
would certainly be useful as a learning tool.
|
Would NT4 not be pretty comfortable in 128 Mbytes of RAM with a 366 Mhz CPU?
I take your point about drivers, but there are drivers for NT4 provided on
the CD that came with the machine. I have had quite a lot of experience
using Windoes 2000 which is the next one up, but it's a bit sluggush on the
laptop, hence my query re NT4. Thank you for your thoughts.
--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler. |
| |
| | | Bill in Co. | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
Peter in New Zealand wrote:
| Quote: | "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uioY2fE0IHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Peter in New Zealand wrote:
My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98, I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of?
NT4 is less stable than Win98?
Ach! Silly me - and I really *did* read through my post before hitting the
send button. Of course what I *meant* was, "I would gain stability from
switching from 98 to NT4. . . ."
My question about possible down sides still stands though (grin) Thanks
for
pointing out my typo.
|
Well actually, (as Gary just pointed out), I think it's my bad, as I misread
it! You did say gain stability from switching *to* NT4, so, my bad.
Sorry.  |
| |
| | | Bill in Co. | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
Right. My bad. Sorry!
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Quote: | He said it's MORE stable. Read the sentence again.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
LINK
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uioY2fE0IHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Peter in New Zealand wrote:
My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98, I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of?
NT4 is less stable than Win98?
I will be imaging
the drive before starting so I can return it to its 98 state pretty
easily if I want to.
On the USB issue I have decided to forget about it as I will be tossing
in a network PC card when it arrives and then I can move stuff between
it and my other machine without difficulty.
--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler. |
|
| |
| | | philo | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
"Peter in New Zealand" <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1213679624.971855@ftpsrv1...
| Quote: | My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98 I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of? I will be imaging
the drive before starting so I can return it to its 98 state pretty
easily if I want to.
On the USB issue I have decided to forget about it as I will be tossing
in a network PC card when it arrives and then I can move stuff between
it and my other machine without difficulty.
|
I have used NT4 and as a matter of fact still use it from time to time
and it is definitely more stable than Win98...but of course it does not have
USB support.
OTOH: If your win98 is working just fine...I'd leave it alone.
Also, if you simply just like to fool around with operating systems etc...
you may want to try Linux on that machine. Office 97 should run Ok under
WINE... |
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| | | Peter in New Zealand | |
| | Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Slightly OT - W98 or NT? | |
| | | |
philo wrote:
| Quote: | "Peter in New Zealand" <peterbalplug@extra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1213679624.971855@ftpsrv1...
My apologies for the OT post, but I am curious to ask an opinion on
this. The machine I have originally came with your choice of 98 or NT4
on it. I have 98SE running pretty well thanks to the support and
experience of this group. A friend of mine has a full install CD for NT4
Workstation he hasn't used for years and he is happy to gift it to me if
I want it. Apart from the fact that NT groups on the Internet are fairly
quiet now-a-days I think am more likely to get an unbiased opinion here
I think from anyone who has used it.
I don't use the machine for games - I run MS Office 97, and use Firefox
and Thunderbird. I would gain stability from switching to NT4 from 98 I
know, but are there any gotchas I should be aware of? I will be imaging
the drive before starting so I can return it to its 98 state pretty
easily if I want to.
On the USB issue I have decided to forget about it as I will be tossing
in a network PC card when it arrives and then I can move stuff between
it and my other machine without difficulty.
I have used NT4 and as a matter of fact still use it from time to time
and it is definitely more stable than Win98...but of course it does not have
USB support.
OTOH: If your win98 is working just fine...I'd leave it alone.
Also, if you simply just like to fool around with operating systems etc...
you may want to try Linux on that machine. Office 97 should run Ok under
WINE...
Good thought. Yes, I DO enjoy fiddling about with operating systems, but |
I am really trying to work out the best OS for the laptop. I would use
Win 2000 which I also have a license for but it's a bit sluggish, though
workable. But there's a couple of strange issues with it - one being
that it seems to always think it is on AC power and fully charged,
regardless of whether it's on power or battery, and the touchpad seems
to be a bit flakey. Also for some reason I have no hibernate with 2K.
But, as you so rightly point out, if 98 is running OK then perhaps I
should just leave well alone. Trouble is, after fiddling with computers
since the Sinclair ZX80 came out I find it hard to stop trying to get
just that extra teensy weensy little improvement. But perhaps I'm
getting too old for this sort of geeky fiddling, and need to, as you so
rightly say, just learn to flippin' leave well alone.
Thanks for the comments, which I appreciate. I must say that 98 IS
ticking along pretty well on the whole.
--
Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
compulsive computer fiddler. |
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