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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Help with correlating printer colours please
       
I scanned a colour photograph then viewed it in CS3. Colours were identical. However
printing it on glossy photographic paper using a Canon IP4300 produced a dirty mauve
colour on the woman's dress instead of a bright purple. Up until now, I've never had this
problem.

Printer driver is newer than the one offered on the Canon site. I've changed the Color
Profiles every which way, set the printer to show glossy photographic paper and tried no
color management, and let either the printer or Photoshop manage colours. Six sheets of
paper later I'm no further ahead. Now all the default settings are so mixed up I don't
know where I'm at. Even the Preview feature in the Print command shows an accurate colour
which doesn't match the printed photograph.

Help!! How do I get the printer to match colours shown on the monitor?
 

 
Dave
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with correlating printer colours please
       
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:51:42 -0400, circe@treadles.ca wrote:

Quote:
I scanned a colour photograph then viewed it in CS3. Colours were identical. However
printing it on glossy photographic paper using a Canon IP4300 produced a dirty mauve
colour on the woman's dress instead of a bright purple. Up until now, I've never had this
problem.

Printer driver is newer than the one offered on the Canon site. I've changed the Color
Profiles every which way, set the printer to show glossy photographic paper and tried no
color management, and let either the printer or Photoshop manage colours. Six sheets of
paper later I'm no further ahead. Now all the default settings are so mixed up I don't
know where I'm at. Even the Preview feature in the Print command shows an accurate colour
which doesn't match the printed photograph.

Help!! How do I get the printer to match colours shown on the monitor?


Click on whichever search machine you make use of and type
'calibrating the monitor' or simply only 'calibrating' or anything to
the effect.
Are you (new) on Internet?
 

 
Ragnar
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with correlating printer colours please
       
<circe@treadles.ca> wrote in message
news:cvonb45jt5g0sq45an19u3oqajb5d0f03u@4ax.com...
Quote:
I scanned a colour photograph then viewed it in CS3. Colours were
identical. However
printing it on glossy photographic paper using a Canon IP4300 produced a
dirty mauve
colour on the woman's dress instead of a bright purple. Up until now, I've
never had this
problem.

Printer driver is newer than the one offered on the Canon site. I've
changed the Color
Profiles every which way, set the printer to show glossy photographic
paper and tried no
color management, and let either the printer or Photoshop manage colours.
Six sheets of
paper later I'm no further ahead. Now all the default settings are so
mixed up I don't
know where I'm at. Even the Preview feature in the Print command shows an
accurate colour
which doesn't match the printed photograph.

Help!! How do I get the printer to match colours shown on the monitor?

Sounds like a gamut problem to me. Open your image and switch to CMYK mode;
if the colours instantly go dull then your colours are out of gamut and
there's very little you can about it I'm afraid. If the colours still look
OK in CMYK but continue to print badly, then it's more likely a monitor
adjustment or colour management problem.
HTH
R.
 

 
Guest
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with correlating printer colours please
       
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:45:49 +0100, "Ragnar" <ragnar@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

Quote:
Sounds like a gamut problem to me. Open your image and switch to CMYK mode;
if the colours instantly go dull then your colours are out of gamut and
there's very little you can about it I'm afraid. If the colours still look
OK in CMYK but continue to print badly, then it's more likely a monitor
adjustment or colour management problem.

Thanks, Ragnar, for your input.

The colours look fine on the monitor no matter which mode I use and no matter which
picture I load, as long as it's a colour mode and not grayscale, of course. Strangely
enough, printing from ACDSee works fine but it doesn't go into enough detail about the
colour settings to copy to adjust P'shop.

Any sort of print preview looks fine too. It's just that when the photo comes out of the
printer, the colours are wrong. Tried "Printer manages colors" in the Print option but
that doesn't help any.

I don't want to play around with the monitor colour settings because they seem just fine
the way they are. It's only this one photo that's causing problems with the printer.

Any further ideas?
 

 
Talker
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with correlating printer colours please
       
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:34:18 -0400, circe wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:45:49 +0100, "Ragnar" <ragnar@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

Sounds like a gamut problem to me. Open your image and switch to CMYK mode;
if the colours instantly go dull then your colours are out of gamut and
there's very little you can about it I'm afraid. If the colours still look
OK in CMYK but continue to print badly, then it's more likely a monitor
adjustment or colour management problem.

Thanks, Ragnar, for your input.

The colours look fine on the monitor no matter which mode I use and no matter which
picture I load, as long as it's a colour mode and not grayscale, of course. Strangely
enough, printing from ACDSee works fine but it doesn't go into enough detail about the
colour settings to copy to adjust P'shop.

Any sort of print preview looks fine too. It's just that when the photo comes out of the
printer, the colours are wrong. Tried "Printer manages colors" in the Print option but
that doesn't help any.

I don't want to play around with the monitor colour settings because they seem just fine
the way they are. It's only this one photo that's causing problems with the printer.

Any further ideas?


If you've calibrated your monitor, then you probably need to calibrate
your printer. You can buy the equipment and do it yourself, or you
can use one of the online profilers like
LINK I use her profiles for my printer and
they work well. Her costs are reasonable and once you have the
profile, your prints should match your monitor.

Talker
 

 
Roy G
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with correlating printer colours please
       
<circe@treadles.ca> wrote in message
news:cvonb45jt5g0sq45an19u3oqajb5d0f03u@4ax.com...
Quote:
I scanned a colour photograph then viewed it in CS3. Colours were
identical. However
printing it on glossy photographic paper using a Canon IP4300 produced a
dirty mauve
colour on the woman's dress instead of a bright purple. Up until now, I've
never had this
problem.

Printer driver is newer than the one offered on the Canon site. I've
changed the Color
Profiles every which way, set the printer to show glossy photographic
paper and tried no
color management, and let either the printer or Photoshop manage colours.
Six sheets of
paper later I'm no further ahead. Now all the default settings are so
mixed up I don't
know where I'm at. Even the Preview feature in the Print command shows an
accurate colour
which doesn't match the printed photograph.

Help!! How do I get the printer to match colours shown on the monitor?


If the colours are Ok on ACDC but not in Ps, then it is very likely one or
more errors in your Colour Management set up.

If it only this one Image, then that would indicate that it is something
specific to that one Image.

It could be that its "Tagged" Colour Profile is different from your other
Prints?

For normal Inkjet printing you should really only be using sRGB or Adobe
RGB.

Or it might even be in the wrong Colour Space (Mode).
Is the image in RGB, as it should be, or in LAB or CMYK ?

If you send a CMYK Image to an inkjet printer you will get rubbish colours
out.

Roy G
 

 
Joel
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with correlating printer colours please
       
circe@treadles.ca wrote:

Quote:
I scanned a colour photograph then viewed it in CS3. Colours were identical. However
printing it on glossy photographic paper using a Canon IP4300 produced a dirty mauve
colour on the woman's dress instead of a bright purple. Up until now, I've never had this
problem.

Printer driver is newer than the one offered on the Canon site. I've changed the Color
Profiles every which way, set the printer to show glossy photographic paper and tried no
color management, and let either the printer or Photoshop manage colours. Six sheets of
paper later I'm no further ahead. Now all the default settings are so mixed up I don't
know where I'm at. Even the Preview feature in the Print command shows an accurate colour
which doesn't match the printed photograph.

Help!! How do I get the printer to match colours shown on the monitor?

1. Calibrate your monitor

2. Download and load the specific Printer Profile to your Photoshop

3. Use Ctrl-Y (I think as I don't have Photoshop running at the moment to
check the command) to toggle between Monitor/Printing viewing.

And after you got the BASIC monitor and printer setup correctly, then you
can start adjusting the color to your liking. Also, you may have some
problem with the shinning effect on many colors (especially RED channel),
and Photo Paper or Ink can be the source of problem too. So you may want to
try different Paper from different manufacture (if you don't use Canon's
Photo paper).
 

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