|  | Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | | |
| | | Ken |  |
|  Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? |  |
I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether defragging
is necessary, but if one chooses to use such software, what is the
latest and greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K |
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| | | Unknown | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
Best and most trouble free is included with XP.
"Ken" <noreply@charter.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether defragging is
necessary, but if one chooses to use such software, what is the latest and
greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K |
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| | | db.·.. | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
there is no debate
on the benefits of
defraging the disk:
LINK
here is more tools
offered by microsoft:
LINK
LINK
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"Ken" <noreply@charter.net> wrote in message news:Emgwk.37511$4s1.26842@newsfe06.iad...
| Quote: | I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether defragging is necessary, but if one chooses to use such software, what
is the latest and greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K |
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| | | JS | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
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The defrag wars have pretty much come to an end. Most defragmentation
software use an API named Movefile. Which limits what a defrag tool running
in Windows XP is allowed to do.
"The MoveFile API implements a set of rules for moving files while the OS is
active. By nature, the MoveFile API presents challenges because it requires
that the OS move data 16 clusters at a time. Therefore, even for online
de-fragmentation, utilities that use the MoveFile API must do extra work to
arrange files contiguously. A more serious problem, however, is that the
MoveFile API contains no provisions for moving system files. The inability
to manipulate these system files decreases the effectiveness of
de-fragmentation utilities. A highly fragmented page file, for example,
becomes a huge obstacle because it fragments available free space, and a
de-fragmentation utility cannot find contiguous space to place data files.
To completely understand this problem, you need to look at the
characteristics of specific system files."
Full article:
LINK
Diskeeper: LINK
This is the full version of what is built into Windows XP and can defrag
system files which XP built-in defrag utility can not.
Free: PageDefrag:
LINK
JS
LINK
"Ken" <noreply@charter.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether defragging is
necessary, but if one chooses to use such software, what is the latest and
greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K |
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| | | Alec S. | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
"JS" <@> wrote in message news:OFpOjm5DJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
That was an interesting read. I still use FAT32 and DOS, so I can fully defrag
(at most it takes a few manual steps). Unfortunately, since most people are
moving to Windows-only-with-NTFS, and the increasing size of hard drives, it’s
going to become more of an issue.
The most important factor in keeping drives unfragmented is partitioning.
Keeping the OS and data separate, and using a dedicated drive for the pagefile
(either physical or logical) will immensely help defragging be faster and more
effective; it will even help avoid needing to defrag at all.
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Alec S.
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| | | Bob Willard | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
Ken wrote:
| Quote: | I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether defragging
is necessary, but if one chooses to use such software, what is the
latest and greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K
|
Since defragging matters little on most SOHO PCs, I recommend using the
cheapest defragger available -- the one that is included with the OS.
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Cheers, Bob |
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| | | Gerry | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
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JS
I found this link an interesting read.
LINK
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Regards.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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JS wrote:
| Quote: | The defrag wars have pretty much come to an end. Most defragmentation
software use an API named Movefile. Which limits what a defrag tool
running in Windows XP is allowed to do.
"The MoveFile API implements a set of rules for moving files while
the OS is active. By nature, the MoveFile API presents challenges
because it requires that the OS move data 16 clusters at a time.
Therefore, even for online de-fragmentation, utilities that use the
MoveFile API must do extra work to arrange files contiguously. A more
serious problem, however, is that the MoveFile API contains no
provisions for moving system files. The inability to manipulate these
system files decreases the effectiveness of de-fragmentation
utilities. A highly fragmented page file, for example, becomes a huge
obstacle because it fragments available free space, and a
de-fragmentation utility cannot find contiguous space to place data
files. To completely understand this problem, you need to look at the
characteristics of specific system files." Full article:
LINK
Diskeeper: LINK
This is the full version of what is built into Windows XP and can
defrag system files which XP built-in defrag utility can not.
Free: PageDefrag:
LINK
JS
LINK
"Ken" <noreply@charter.net> wrote in message
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I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether
defragging is necessary, but if one chooses to use such software,
what is the latest and greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K |
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| | | JS | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
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Thanks but that is the same link I included in my post.
JS
"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | JS
I found this link an interesting read.
LINK
--
Regards.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JS wrote:
The defrag wars have pretty much come to an end. Most defragmentation
software use an API named Movefile. Which limits what a defrag tool
running in Windows XP is allowed to do.
"The MoveFile API implements a set of rules for moving files while
the OS is active. By nature, the MoveFile API presents challenges
because it requires that the OS move data 16 clusters at a time.
Therefore, even for online de-fragmentation, utilities that use the
MoveFile API must do extra work to arrange files contiguously. A more
serious problem, however, is that the MoveFile API contains no
provisions for moving system files. The inability to manipulate these
system files decreases the effectiveness of de-fragmentation
utilities. A highly fragmented page file, for example, becomes a huge
obstacle because it fragments available free space, and a
de-fragmentation utility cannot find contiguous space to place data
files. To completely understand this problem, you need to look at the
characteristics of specific system files." Full article:
LINK
Diskeeper: LINK
This is the full version of what is built into Windows XP and can
defrag system files which XP built-in defrag utility can not.
Free: PageDefrag:
LINK
JS
LINK
"Ken" <noreply@charter.net> wrote in message
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I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether
defragging is necessary, but if one chooses to use such software,
what is the latest and greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K
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| | | Arno Wagner | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Ken <noreply@charter.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether defragging
is necessary, but if one chooses to use such software, what is the
latest and greatest in the defrag software wars?
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The included defragger is not very good, but should do in
most situations. It also seems it only rarely trashed the disk.
Woth other solutions the riosk may be higher and less reported,
because they see less use.
Arno |
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| | | beamish | |
| | Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: RE: Defragmentation software for Windows XP? | |
"Ken" wrote:
| Quote: | I am aware that there has been lots of debate as to whether defragging
is necessary, but if one chooses to use such software, what is the
latest and greatest in the defrag software wars?
Thanks
Ken K
Hello, |
Pagdfrg,Microsoft sysinternals and LINK
for JKDefrag, free defrag tool.
Two tools that are free and useful.
take care.
beamish. |
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